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Pagan Kennedy, author of "Black Livingstone: A True Tale of Adventure in Nineteenth Century Congo," the true story of early black American missionary to Africa William Sheppard

Our second guest, bell hooks, feminist writer and critic, was not available for this program

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00:00 Introduction
11:58 Question of the Week
Question: " Is someone who has made a gender transition from through SRS and/or HRT, then called "transgender" or are they solely called "transsexual?" " (from: Katharine, Missouri)
Question: " Why can't we just admit these people are mentally ill. Any man who would want his penis cut off is mentally ill. Anyone who would delibrately mutilate their gentials suffers from a severe mental illness. Why can't we just call it what it is, which is a mental illness? Also, we don't currently have the technology to change someone's gender. A man can cut off his gentials, and call himself a woman but he's still a man, as much as he ever was. " (from: Jeffery Winkler, Hanford, CA)
23:21 Hal Fuller's Twisted Nasty News
33:35 Pagan Kennedy, author of the true story of William Sheppard, titled "Black Livingstone: A True Tale of Adventure in Nineteenth Century Congo". Sheppard was one of the first black Americna missionaries to Africa, and this story tells of his role in fighting back colonialism in the Congo. He was one of the first to alert the world to the abuses of King Leopold of Belgium, who used Congolese as slave laborers to produce rubber for the industrial revolution underway. It is believed that as many as 10 million Congolese died as a result of Belgian actions there.
February is Black History Month, and we dedicate this interview to re-envisioning history from a non-eurocentric prespective.
For more information, visit:
Pagan Kennedy's personal web site at
Read a review of "Black Livingstone" at the International Herald Tribune online
57:38 Special Message
58:39 Boston area (and national) announcements
62:31 Sadly, our second guest, bell hooks (lowercase used per her preference), was unreachable by phone. As it turned out, she was waiting patiently at home for our call, but with her telephone ringer turned off! So instead of an interview with her (that will surely be rescheduled) you can listen to Nancy and Gordene talk about bell hooks, her new book "Communiion", and her new subject, love, all with help from Karen and Hal.
For more information about bell hooks, visit:
- Her page at South End Press
- A page of bell hooks links at
87:37 End
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