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Cheryl Chase, founder and director of the Intersex Society of North America, on intersex activism and policy, and her impending resignation as the organization's director

Arline Isaacson, lead lobbyist on the recently successful effort to defeat the Massachusetts anti-gay marriage initiative petition, on gay and lesbian marriage in Massachusetts

" Doctors just scoffed at the idea that we should have something to say about this. "
- Cheryl Chase, on ISNA's initial reception from doctors

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00:00 Introduction and commentary, including:
• The Shirly MacLaine movie "Bruno"
09:02 Question of the week
" I was depressed most of the time as a male. Now as a woman I am seldom depressed...Any others had the same experience? "
(from: Joanna, Australia)
17:48 Hal Fuller's Twisted Nasty News
30:04 Our guest took a small advocacy organization from ridicule to respect in the eyes of medical professionals. Cheryl Chase, founder of the Intersex Society of North America, is now turning over its direction to someone else. Join us as we talk with Cheryl about intersex activism's past, present and future.

In 1999, the Supreme Court of Colombia issued an historic decision establishing human rights protections for people born intersex, leaning heavily on Cheryl Chase's 10,000 word amicus brief. A scholar as well as a patient advocate, Ms. Chase has given numerous presentations including "Sexual Ambiguity: The Patient-Centered Approach" at the 2000 meeting of the Lawson Wilkins Pediatric Endocrine Society. Considered an unprecedented patient-led breakthrough in medical reform, her work has been slated for publication in the Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology and Metabolism. Her work has also been published in the Journal of Urology, Journal of Clinical Ethics, and Pediatric Nursing.

For more information:
• Visit the Intersex Society of North America website at
57:27 Special Message
57:58 Boston area (and national) announcements
61:18 A particularly nasty Massachusetts state anti-gay marriage initiative was defeated recently. The lead lobbyist against the measure, Arline Isaacson, joins us to describe that struggle and the overall effort to create fair rights legislation for gay and lesbian people in relationships.

Arline is co-chair of the Massachusetts Gay and Lesbian Political Caucus, a board member of, and the lead lobbyist working to defeat the anti-gay intiative petition, H4840.
The resurfacing of the radical religous right-wing in Massachusetts this year has resulted in the filing of House Bill 472, a state version of the homophobic "Defense of Marriage Act" that passed the U.S. Congress in 1996. MGLPC is leading the fight to defeat this bill. See the MGLPC website section on the Caucus Fight the Right Project for more information on the Caucus' efforts in this area. MGLPC is the largest state-wide lesbian and gay political lobbying organization in Massachusetts, founded in 1973.

For more information:
• Visit
• Visit the Massachusetts Gay & Lesbian Political Caucus (MGLPC) website at
PO Box 246, State House, Boston 02133; Phone: 617-262-1565
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