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Victoria Steinberg, law clerk and legal activist, on the 'trans panic' defense and strategies for eliminating it

Mara Keisling, director of the National Center for Transgender Equality, on the demise of the 'stealth' option for transgenders

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00:00 Introduction
  • Labor Day: not just a day off
14:50 Clown graphic Hal Fuller's Twisted Nasty News
  • Poem about Katrina: "Dying Damp"
  • CA: Nabors gets 11 years in Araujo killing
  • NY: Police get into shootup over marijuana
  • IN: Hiway message boards misued for charity dinners
  • Ukranian company sells chocolate-covered pork fat
  • Playboy launches femme men's clothing line
  • Bush turbid during debate
  • London: McDonald's to redesign container to save hedgehogs
  • Maine: Robo-trout released into the wild
  • Scotland: football player indicted for crossing self
30:27 The Bird With the Word Raving Raven
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  • Chad, Africa: Elephant poachers still flourishing
  • Lebanon: loggerback turtle rescue underway
  • Tigeress saved by surrogate mothering of pigs [note: this story turns out to be untrue; read the truth here]

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37:08 Gender News
  • NY: School puts info about transitioning teacher online [visit Gender Sanity website]
  • Ghana: gay conference banned
  • San Antonio: Cop convicted for sexual abuse of transsexual
  • Pastor indicted for rape perpetrated as "casting out demons"
  • Governor Schwartzeneggar signs GLBT rights bill
  • Seattle: group to appeal anti-same-sex marriage ruling
  • Russia: cop attempts suicide after performing transsexual surgery on self
51:07 Question of the Week

"In terms of gender identity, the world seems to place so much importance upon whether we are male or female, and at the same time, it places so much importance upon identifiers such as clothing and mannerisms. But as transgender people we are asking the world to not place such rigid standards upon gender so that we can become our true selves. What has been confusing me, however, is that if others are making a big deal out of my being transgender, why am I making it a big deal to be identified as a female? At one point in my life I thought I could just be me, neither male nor female, that is, society's definition/s of gender. But as I become older I feel a strong pull to my feminine self, a self I always felt I have been. Am I making any sense? I guess what I am asking is what is truly male and truly female? I definitely feel female."
(From: Brenna)

59:24 Evelien Snel Evelien's Diary, entry 47: "Prague"

Evelien's website:

65:05 All too often, men who have murdered trans women have successfully defended their actions as "heat of passion" actions resulting from their panic at "discovering" the shape of the trans woman's genitals. Now, a proposed law in California promises to end the use of that defense. Victoria Steinberg, law clerk at the Massachusetts Appeals Court and social justice activist, talks about the "trans panic defense" and the best strategy for opposing it.

Victoria's paper: "A Heat of Passion Offense: Emotions and Bias in 'Trans Panic' Mitigation Claims"

California's "Gwen Araujo Justice for Victims Act"

Wikipedia Gwen Araujo entry

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99:08 Some transsexuals (and transgender persons) who transition to the opposite gender live in their new gender without those around them knowing about their opposite-gendered past. Called "stealth", this practice is becoming less and less tenable, according to Mara Keisling, excecutive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality. She talks with us about how those who live in 'stealth' are increasingly being outed as a result of new federal security practices.

Visit the NCTE website at

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