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Georgie Jessup, musician extraordinaire, on music, spirituality, two-spirit tradition and transgenderism

Virginia Stephenson on transgenderism in employment, as she faces the impending loss of her job following her gender change

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00:00 Introduction and commentary, including:
• Gender and Ted Williams
• Bachlorettes in Alaska
• Gender in Robert Altman's films
09:29 Question of the week
" How do you choose guests for GenderTalk? "
(from: MaryAnn, New York)
13:45 Hal Fuller's Twisted Nasty News
25:44 Some musicians transcend label and category, creating art which stands strong and proud on its own merit. Georgie Jessup is such an artist. Listen with us to her music, and to what Georgie has to say about her art, apirituality, the two-spirit tradition and transgenderism.

Georgie is a two-time WAMMIE (Washington Area Music Association/WAMA) nominated singer songwriter. She is currently working on two cd projects to be released late 2002/2003, titled "Red Cloud's Room" and "Woman in a Man's Suit."

Songs played:
26:47 - 29:54 Post Op Freeway (partial)
38:25 - 41:32 It Takes Nothin' (American Holocaust CD).
54:02 - 55:27 Post Op Freeway (conclusion)

For more information:
• Visit Georgie Jessup's website at
• Listen to Georgie's pervious interviews on GenderTalk on
    Program #230, November 1, 1999
    Program #257, May 8, 2000
55:47 Special Message
56:47 Boston area (and national) announcements
59:23 Loss of employment is an all too common result for those few souls who dare to change their social gender on the job. The last time we spoke with trans activist Virginia Stephenson she was pleased with how things were going. This time, though, things have changed. Despite an outstanding work record in a management position, she now faces the loss of her job for reasons her employer refuses to disclose.

Virginia, who lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico, has been a guest on GenderTalk several times, talking about her political activism, spirituality, sexuality and her personal gender transition. She works in a "stereotypical conservative business, electrical wholesaling to contractors," and completed her transition to presenting as a woman some months ago.
Virginia also updates us on on the ongoing work in New Mexico to secure non-discrimination protections for GLBT persons both statewide and in Albuquerque.

For more information:
You can listen to Virginia's previous GenderTalk interviews on:
Program #310, May 1, 2000 (on gender fluidity & trans politics)
Program #321, July 30, 2001 (on trans issues, politics, & her transition)
Program #322, August 6, 2001 (on MTF trans sexuality)
Program #337, November 19, 2001 (on her transition)
82:48 End
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